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Post by petalo on Dec 23, 2003 16:51:23 GMT -5
ðïéá åéíáé ç ãíùìç óáò ãéá ôçí âéá ðïõ ìáóôéæåé ôïóá ÷ñïíéá ôçí ÷ùñá óôá ãçðåäá?ðïéïé öôáéíå êáé ðïé ùöåëïõíôáé áðï áõôç?
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Post by eksoristos on Dec 23, 2003 19:34:49 GMT -5
H via sta gipeda file mou dustuxos einai mia ekfansi mono tis vias pou diakrinei oles tis sugkentoroseis sti xora mas: apo tis mathtikes sugkentroseis mexri ta sullalitiria gia tin pagkosmiopoiisi kai tis suntakseis pesmou pou den epese ksulo.... Mono ston pro trietias anendot tou ...Xristodoulou den epese ksulo, an kai den pairno orko toi den epese kai kamia psili. Einai apotelesma 2 pragamton kat'eme: proton tis eksofrenikis atimorisias pou apolamvanoun oloi autoi oi malakes pou ta spane kai tis nootropias tou Ellina oti gia ola ftaiei kao[poios allos kai opoios den einai mazi mas ( me tin omada mas ) einai exthros mas...Kia fusika tis elleipsis THELISIS apo merous tis politeias na to stamatisei. Tropoi uparxoun, tharos den uparxei...Giati mi mou peis oti an oi magkes pou paizoun ksulo ikseran oti an sullifthoun tha perasoun merikous mines sti fulaki tha kanan auta pou kanoun... Molis oi protoi 150-200 fane poines fulakisis na deis pos tha stamatisei i via...Den epeketeinomai se themata agogis kai sumperiforas fi8lathlon os metro antimetopisis giati tha mas paroun ta gelia kai ta dakrua...
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Post by DOC on Dec 23, 2003 20:46:46 GMT -5
Ìçðùò èá ðñåðå íá áíïéîïõìå êáé åíá thread "Âéá óôá Öïñïõì"; Ôï êåñáôï ìïõ ðéá!  |
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Post by Lord7 on Dec 24, 2003 10:34:24 GMT -5
Ôéò ðåñéóóïôåñåò öïñåò åéíáé ìç äéêáéïëïãçóéìåò ïé ðñáîåéò âéáò êáé áõôïìáôùò êáôáêñéôååò. Õðáñ÷ïõí êáé óôéãìåò ïìùò ðïõ ïé åìðëåêïìåíïé å÷ïõí ïëï ôï äéêéï ìå ôï ìåñïò ôïõò. Öõóéêá ãéá íá åêöåñåé êáðïéïò áðùøç ðáíù óôï èåìá áõôï èá ðñåðåé íá å÷åé ðáåé êáé êáììéá åêäñïìïõëá...  Ôùñá ãéá ôï ðïéïò öôáéåé? Ôï êñáôïò êáôá êõñéï ëïãï ðïõ áöçíåé ôçí áóôõíïìéá áíéêáíç. Ãéáôé áí çèåëå ôï êñáôïò íá óôáìáôçóåé ôçí âéá èá ìðïñïõóå áíåôá ìåóù áóôõíïìéáò íá ôïõò ìðáãëáñùóåé ïëïõò áõôïõò ðïõ êáíïõí åðåéóïäéá, êáé íá âáëåé åíá ôåëïò. Êáô' åìå äåí õðáñ÷åé èåëçóç. |
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Post by smarg on Jan 6, 2004 7:44:30 GMT -5
ÐÝñá áðü ôç âßá áõôü ðïõ ìïõ êÜíåé êÜêéóôç åíôýðùóç åßíáé ç âëáêåßá ìåñéêþí íá ãéïõ÷Üñïõí ôçí þñá ðïõ êñáôåßôáé åíüò ëåðôïý óéãÞ ãéá êÜðïéïí ðïõ äåí õðÜñ÷åé ðéá áíÜìåóÜ ìáò üðïéïò êé áí åßíáé áõôüò. Ôüóï äýóêïëï åßíáé íá ôï âïõëþóïõí ãéá 1'  Åðßóçò íôñÝðïìáé üôáí óå áãþíá ôçò ÅèíéêÞò ãéïõ÷Üñåôáé ï ýìíïò ôçò Üëëçò ÷þñáò  Êáé ãé´ áõôü äåí öôáßåé ç ðïëéôåßá ... åßíáé ðÜíù áð' üëá èÝìá ðáäåßáò...  |
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Post by Ypsilon on Jan 6, 2004 8:39:19 GMT -5
ÈÝëù íá êÜíù ìéá ðéï ãåíéêÞ ôïðïèÝôçóç, ãéáôß êáëü åßíáé íá åîåôÜæïõìå êÜèå ðñüâëçìá óå ó÷Ýóç ìå ôï ðåñéâÜëëïí ôïõ êáé ôéò óõíèÞêåò. Áí èÝëïõìå ëïéðüí íá äïýìå ôá ðñáãìáôéêÜ áßôéá ãé’ áõôÞí ôçí ôñéôïêïóìéêÞ êáôÜóôáóç ìå ôç âßá, ðñÝðåé íá ãõñßóïõìå óôá ÷ñüíéá ôçò ìåôáðïëßôåõóçò. ÌåôÜ ôïí Â’ Ðáãêüóìéï, üëç ç Åõñþðç Üñ÷éóå íá áíïéêïäïìåßôáé êáé íá áíáðôýóóåôáé. ÅìÜò ìáò Ýöáãå ï åìöýëéïò êáé óôç óõíÝ÷åéá ç ÷ïýíôá, ìå áðïôÝëåóìá, üôáí áðïêáôáóôÜèçêå ôï ðïëßôåõìá, åìåßò ü÷é ìüíï íá Ý÷ïõìå ìåßíåé 50 ÷ñüíéá ðßóù, áëëÜ áðü ôç äßøá ìáò ãéá åëåõèåñßá íá åêëáìâÜíïõìå ôç Äçìïêñáôßá óáí «êÜíù ü,ôé èÝëù, ãéáôß....Ý÷ïõìå Äçìïêñáôßá» !!!! ÅíôÜîåé, óôåñçìÝíïé Þìáóôáí ôüóá ÷ñüíéá, ðïíåìÝíïé, áëëÜ äåí åß÷áìå ôï ìõáëü íá óêåöôïýìå üôé ôá áãáèÜ ôçò äçìïêñáôßáò ôá áðïëáìâÜíïõìå ìå åéñçíéêü ôñüðï êáé ü÷é ìå ãåíéêÞ éóïðÝäùóç ôùí ðÜíôùí. Áðü áõôü ôï óçìåßï ëïéðüí, ìÝ÷ñé ôçí ðëÞñç áóõäïóßá (êáé êáô’ åðÝêôáóç ôçí áôéìùñçóßá), ï äñüìïò åßíáé åëÜ÷éóôïò êáé áõôÜ ôá áðïôåëÝóìáôá ðëçñþíïõìå ôþñá. Äåí õðÞñîå ðïôÝ ïýôå ðïëéôéêÞ âïýëçóç, áëëÜ ïýôå êáé äéÜèåóç áðü åìÜò íá åñìçíåýóïõìå óùóôÜ ôá äéäÜãìáôá ôçò áëçèéíÞò äçìïêñáôßáò, ôá ïðïßá åßíáé áðëïýóôáôá: Äåí Ý÷ù ôï äéêáßùìá íá êáôáóôñÝöù ðåñéïõóßá ðïõ äåí ìïõ áíÞêåé, ïýôå ìðïñþ íá äéáäçëþíù ôá áéóèÞìáôÜ ìïõ åéò âÜñïò ôïõ êïéíùíéêïý óõíüëïõ. ÐáñÜäåéãìá ïé 430 (!!!!) ðïñåßåò ðïõ Ýãéíáí ôï 2003 óôçí ÁèÞíá, ðïõ ìå åîáßñåóç ôéò áíôéðïëåìéêÝò êáé 2-3 áêüìá, üëåò ïé õðüëïéðåò Þôáí óõãêåíôñùóïýëåò ôçò ðëÜêáò ôùí 200 áôüìùí ôï ðïëý, ðïõ ôï ìüíï ðïõ êáôÜöåñáí, Þôáí íá óôñÝøïõí ôï êïéíùíéêü óýíïëï åíáíôßïí ôïõò ëüãù ôïõ êáèçìåñéíïý ÷Üïõò óôïõò äñüìïõò ôçò ÁèÞíáò, ìå ü,ôé áõôü óõíåðÜãåôáé (åêáôïììýñéá ÷áìÝíåò åñãáôïþñåò, êÜèåôç ðôþóç ôïõ ôæßñïõ ôùí êáôáóôçìÜôùí ðïõ âñßóêïíôáé óôç «æþíç ôùí äéáäçëþóåùí», êÜèåôç áýîçóç ôçò ìüëõíóçò åîáéôßáò ôïõ ðñùôïöáíïýò êáèçìåñéíïý –ó÷åäüí- ìðïôéëéáñßóìáôïò, ðôþóç ôçò ðáñáãùãéêüôçôáò, åêáôïììýñéá óå áðïæçìéþóåéò áðü ôéò êáôáóôñïöÝò óå êáôáóôÞìáôá, ôñÜðåæåò êáé ï÷Þìáôá, äéáóõñìüò ôçò ÷þñáò, ðáñÜëõóç ôùí óõãêïéíùíéþí, êëð êëð). Åäþ öôÜóáìå óôï óçìåßï íá êÜíïõìå ðïñåßá, åðåéäÞ ÷áñÞêáìå (ëÝåé) ðïõ ÄÅÍ Þñèå ï Êüëéí ÐÜïõåë óôçí ÁèÞíá !!!! Áðü êåé íá êáôáëÜâåé êáíåßò ðüóï öáéäñüò ëáüò åßìáóôå. Êé üôáí óõëëáìâÜíïíôáé êÜðïéïé áðü ôïõò ãíùóôïýò «áãíþóôïõò» ãéá öèïñÜ äçìüóéáò êáé éäéùôéêÞò ðåñéïõóßáò, ôçí åðüìåíç êéüëáò çìÝñá ìáæåýïíôáé êáììéÜ êáôïóôáñéÜ óôçí Åõåëðßäùí ãéá óõìðáñÜóôáóç, êáé ìå áñùãü ôï ãíùóôü êýêëùìá ôùí äéêçãüñùí (êÜðïôå óõììåôåß÷á êé åãþ óå áõôü) ôïõò âãÜæïõí áìÝóùò Ýîù, ãéáôß.... «äåí Ýêáíáí ôßðïôá ôá ðáéäéÜ! Ïé ðñïâïêÜôïñåò öôáßíå»!!! ÂãÞêå ëïéðüí êáé ç ðïëéôåßá (ìå êáèõóôÝñçóç 30 åôþí) êáé åßðå ôï áõôïíüçôï: ¼ôé äçëáäÞ äåí ìðïñåß íá áðáãïñåýóåé ôï äéêáßùìá ôùí ðïëéôþí íá äéáäçëþíïõí, ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí üìùò óôéò ìéêñÝò ðïñåßåò èá ðñÝðåé íá êáôáëáìâÜíïõí ìüíï ôç ìéá ëùñßäá ôïõ äñüìïõ, üðùò ãßíåôáé óå üëåò ôéò ÷þñåò ôïõ êüóìïõ. Èõìüóáóôå ëïéðüí ôé Ýãéíå: ¼ëïé ìßëçóáí ãéá ÷ïýíôá, óêïôáäéóìü, Ìåóáßùíá êëð, áðïäåéêíýïíôáò ãéá ìéá áêüìá öïñÜ üôé ï ¸ëëçíáò åßíáé ï ìïíáäéêüò ëáüò óôïí êüóìï ðïõ äéåêäéêåß óèåíáñÜ êáé ìå óõíÝðåéá, ôï äéêáßùìÜ ôïõ íá ðáñáíïìåß!!! Ç ðïëéôåßá (öõóéêÜ) Ýêáíå ðßóù, êáé ìåôÜ áíáñùôéüìáóôå ãéáôß õðÜñ÷åé âßá ðáíôïý (êáé óôá ãÞðåäá), êáé ãéáôß ôá ðÜíôá ìÝíïõí áôéìþñçôá. Êé üôáí üëá áõôÜ ôá åðéóçìáßíïõí ïé îÝíïé êáé ìáò êÜíïõí ñüìðá, ôüôå áõôüìáôá âáöôßæïíôáé óå «áíèÝëëçíåò, ðñÜêôïñåò, óõíïìùóéïëüãïõò» êáé äåí óõììáæåýåôáé. Ôçí êáìðïýñá ìáò åßíáé áäýíáôïí íá ôçí êïéôÜîïõìå, ïðüôå ôé ðáñáðïíéüìáóôå; Åßìáóôå üëïé óõíõðåýèõíïé (ç âßá óôá ãÞðåäá åßíáé ðáñáêëÜäé áõôÞò ôçò íïïôñïðßáò) êáé ðïëý êáëÜ íá ðÜèïõìå!!! |
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Post by Admin on Jan 6, 2004 12:58:41 GMT -5
Ypsilon, ðñïóõðïãñÜöù.
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Post by eksoristos on Jan 6, 2004 17:32:32 GMT -5
Milontas gia via xtes perase tou Liani gia apagoreusi metakinisis organomenon... Megali vlakeia kata tin apopsi mou. Deixnei oti stin pragmatikotita den theloun na lusoun to provlima. Mou thumizei to paramuthi me tis strouthokamilous: vazoume to kefali sto xoma kai to provlima eksafanizetai dia mageias- afiste pou ta sumpathi auta ptina stin pragmatikotita den sumperiferontai etsi! Les kai oi organomenoi ginontai kakoi ekso apo to diko tous gipedo. Les kai ta gegonota tis rizoupolis stis 11 Mai, tou mats AEk Olumpiakos fetos, tis Kalamarias kai ksero 'go pou allou ta kanan oi filoksenoumenoi kai kata kurio logo oi organomenoi. Einai oi organomenoi i aitia tou kakou kurie Liani; Kleistous..Erotisi: o Pretenteris einai organomenos;
H lusi einai mia: fulaka se opoio tsoglani tolmisei kai spasei esto ki ena kareklaki sto gipedo....tote tha deite pos eksafanizetai i via apo ta gipeda. Piase deka kai valtous na plirosoun apo tin tsepi tous ta spasmena, kai meta apagorepse tous tin eisodo se agona ef'orou zois. Tote na deite ti Panagies tha ginoun oloi
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Post by eksoristos on Jan 6, 2004 17:35:53 GMT -5
Summetoxoi sti via eimaste oloi...ki autoi pou spane kai emeis pou anexomaste kai dikaiologoume tin kafrila me theseis tou stul..."eftaige o diaititis", i "tous prokalesan" ktl. Kurios upeuthinoi omos einai autoi pou exoun analavei tin diorganosi otn protathlimaton kai tin astunomeusi tous...
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Panagiotis
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Post by Panagiotis on Jan 15, 2004 4:21:19 GMT -5
ÂÉÁ èá õðáñ÷åé ÐÁÍÔÁ ïóï ç êïéíùíéá åéíáé áññùóôçìåíç.
Óå áèëçôéêï êáé êïéíùíéêï åðéðåäï...
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Post by PAO on Jan 15, 2004 5:41:59 GMT -5
Óùóôïò ï Panagiotis ! Êáôé îåñåé ï áíèñùðïò  |
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Panagiotis
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Post by Panagiotis on Jan 15, 2004 8:52:08 GMT -5
Óùóôïò ï Panagiotis ! Êáôé îåñåé ï áíèñùðïò Ì áñåóåé ðïõ ìå ðéáíåéò... |
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Post by PAO on Jan 15, 2004 9:11:52 GMT -5
Ì áñåóåé ðïõ ìå ðéáíåéò... |
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Åðßóçò íôñÝðïìáé üôáí óå áãþíá ôçò ÅèíéêÞò ãéïõ÷Üñåôáé ï ýìíïò ôçò Üëëçò ÷þñáò 
Êáé ãé´ áõôü äåí öôáßåé ç ðïëéôåßá ... åßíáé ðÜíù áð' üëá èÝìá ðáäåßáò... 
