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Post by eksoristos on Dec 17, 2003 19:08:53 GMT -5
Administrator mia pou to thema telika einai uparkto, mipos exeis tipota plirofories gia to sxedio tou stadiou, ti xoritikotita, tis prosvaseis se auto; Yparxei sugkekrimeno sxedio i einai sto flou; To kostos tou exei prosdioristei; Athanati Ellada me ta AXRISTA Olumpiaka erga sou stis upoloipes poleis...Na upotheso oti an i organotiki ellege se Thessaloniki kai Hrakleio na pane na pnigoune kai eftiaxne gipedares sti Leoforo, sto Aigaleo,sti Filadelfeia ston Panionio kai ston ...Agio Dimitrio to atimo Athinokentriko kratos tha eixe xantakosei tin perifereia gia alli mia fora,e; Toulaxiston stin Athina tha ta xrisimopoiuse kai kapoios...Ante paidia na zisoume na xairomaste ta petamena lefta mas se Hrakleio kai Kautatzogleio
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Post by BS on Dec 18, 2003 6:24:34 GMT -5
No lalakia my friend. Ìéëïýóå ðïëý óïâáñÜ ï ÂåíéæÝëïò. Óôï Ïëõìðéáêü íïìïó÷Ýäéï ðïõ øçößóôçêå óÞìåñá, åêôüò áðü ôçí ÁÅÊ ãßíåôáé ëüãïò êáé ãéá ôïí ÇñáêëÞ. .... ¼ëá áõôÜ åßíáé íüìïò ôïõ ÊñÜôïõò ðëÝïí. Ï êÜèå ðïëéôéêüò ëÝåé ôçí ëáëáêßá ôïõ, ïé ÷ïíôñï… ôçí êÜíïõí êéüëáò!... Ôþñá üìùò èÝëù íá äù ìå ôé ÷ñÞìáôá èá ÷ôéóôåß. Êáé åñùôþ: ÅíôÜîåé Ïëõìðéáêüò, ÐÁÏ, ÁÅÊ, ÐÁÏÊ êáé ¢ñçò óôéò éóôïñéêÝò ôïõò Ýäñåò êáé íá âïçèÞóåé êáé ôï êñÜôïò, üìùò ãéáôß ï ÇñáêëÞò áñíåßôáé ôï Êáõôáôæüãëåéï;
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Post by Admin on Dec 18, 2003 9:35:52 GMT -5
Äåí ðéóôåýù íá õðÜñ÷ïõí êÜðïéá ó÷Ýäéá áðü ôþñá. Äåí Ý÷ù áêïýóåé ôßðïôá ó÷åôéêü äçëáäÞ, ðÝñáí áðü áïñéóôßåò ôïõ óôõë "ãÞðåäï 12.000-15.000 èÝóåùí".
¼óï ãéá ôçí ÜðïøÞ ìïõ ðåñß åðéëïãÞò ìåôáîý Êáõôáíæïãëåßïõ êáé Ìßêñáò ãéá ôïí ÇñáêëÞ, ôçí Ý÷ù ãñÜøåé ëßãá posts ðéï ðñéí.
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Post by eksoristos on Dec 18, 2003 11:20:22 GMT -5
Kati kiniseis san kai autes-gipedares tou 21ou aiona me 12000 theseis- einai pou me kanoun na pisteuo oti autoi oi anthropoi den exoun orama kai den endiaferontai katholou gia to podosfairo...Prooptiki miden: sa na lene kseroume oti eimaste mikroi kai den mas endiaferei na megalosoume oute na prosferoume theama se pollu kosmo...an einai etsi giati de mas adeiazoun tigonia na mpoun alloi pou tha feroun kai pio pollu kosmo; Ksexas, pos tha kanoun ti mpaza apo tin TV P.S. To gegonos oti orizontai agones Dekemvri mina stis 7 i ora to vradu, kathos kai kiniseis gia mikra gipedakia, faneronei oti autoi oi magkes DEN theloun kosmo sta gipeda..theloun mono ta lefta tis TV kai o filathlos na paei na pnigei...tha gurisei omos o troxos kai i kanoula tha sterepsei- sti germania- milane gia meiosi 45ek euro sta tileoptika. Tote tha gurisoun kai tha proskunane ekei pou ftunane
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Post by chris on Dec 18, 2003 11:24:44 GMT -5
enta3y skepsou kai to allo a hraklhs exei tous fila8lous na gemisei ena ghpedo 30000 me dikous tou fila8lous kai oxi me autous tou arh h tou paok otan paizoun meta3y tous. Auto isxeiei gia oles tis "mikres" omades. Ama koita3eis kai ton plh8ysmo mas se 10 xronakia 8a arxisoume na meiwnomaste kiolas..
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Post by eksoristos on Dec 18, 2003 11:31:16 GMT -5
File omos asxetos an o Hraklis den to gemizei me tous dikous tou, exei 5mats to xrono pou tha einai fiska..kai auta ta fragka pane stin tsepi tou. Pame tora sto allo akro: pes oti auta ta 5 mats o Hra ta paizei sto neo gipedo: 2000 filoksenoumenoi, 2500 kenes theseis gia logous asfaleias kai 8000 filathloi tou Hrakli! Se antithesi me 5000 filoksenoumenous -eidika sta topika mats- 3000 asfaleias kai 20000 tou Hrakli! Ektos kai an o Hra perimenei ta mats me Proo kai Akratito na gemisei kai na vgalei lefta...den noiazontai sou leo
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Post by chris on Dec 18, 2003 11:38:26 GMT -5
ok
apo thn allh oso pio megalo to ghpedo toso pio abastaxta ta leitourgika e3oda kai milame na tou menei kai kati oxi na paizei 5 mats kai ta lefta apo ta 4 na phgainoun gia th shnthrhsh.
ektos kai an balei kai ena soro magazia -- an to shkwnei h perioxh. tote to 8ema allazei
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Post by eksoristos on Dec 18, 2003 11:47:42 GMT -5
Fil Chris oloi otan sxediazoun makroprothesma kseroun oti to kerdos den erxetai amesos. Thelei epimoni, upomoni kai thusies. Nai, ego sou leo oti to kostos einai megalo, kai i politeia mporei na ton stiriksei se auto, alloste o Benizelos kai o Tsoxatzopoulos ekei den eklegontai; Kai ena tou rotisei kaneis exoun aki etoimi ti dikaiologia: theloume "zontano" stadio kai apo to na erimothei vazoume kati emeis kati o Hra kai to stadio suntireitai. O hra den exei stoxous gia Europi, gia kaluteri poreia sto protathlima; Tha paei ekei me to gipedo ton 12000 theseon; den exei stoxo na dimiourgisei neous filathlous; Na ferei paidia konta tou; An oxi, tote as ftiaksei to gipedaki ton 12000 theseon kai as kanei ton komparso sto protathlima...Exeis kamia amfivolia opti kai neo gipedo na ftiaksei, den tha treksei na xrisimopoiisei to Kaut etsi kai vgei UEFA;
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Post by chris on Dec 18, 2003 12:19:07 GMT -5
makropro8esma einai opws ta les den amfibalw se auto apo th stigmh pou zoume se mia ygeih koinwnia(a8lhtika panta) kai oso gia beni... alimono ama den painepseis to spiti sou 8a pesei kai 8a se plawsei
den symerizesai kata th gnwmh mou merikous paragontes.
oi perissoteroi pou megalwnoun 8essalonikh, a8hna koinws se megales poleis phgainoun stis megalhteres omades ths polhs logo epeirohs koinws to swmateio 8a prepei na allaksei genika nootropeia kai na ksefygei apo tis "greies"....apo filous pou exw akousei gia diafora mats mazevontan 500 ka8ara tou hraklh oi ypoloipoi htan paoktzhdes pou phgainan na ta spasoun
den kserw an exei allaksei to skhniko
apo th stigmh pou to podosfairo mas mastizetai genikos apo diaforous, ta problhmata twn pae ginontai pio emfanei stis mikres kai mesees omades. apo th stigmh pou h katastash einai oti brexei 8a fytrwsei den mporoume na kanoume politikh pou na apodosei se 10 xronia, kai den pisteuw oso matso kai na einai o proedros tou hra na ta stazei xwris na blepei antikrisma. kai enta3i na agorasei paixtes (kati pou egine ta perasmena xroniaopws kai fetos), alla xwris antikrisma; 6 prota8lhma kai gia ouefa den ton kobw poso malwn an bgei gia mia kalh poreia pou 8a ferei ta lefta.
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Post by starsailor on Dec 18, 2003 12:54:49 GMT -5
Kati kiniseis san kai autes-gipedares tou 21ou aiona me 12000 theseis- einai pou me kanoun na pisteuo oti autoi oi anthropoi den exoun orama kai den endiaferontai katholou gia to podosfairo...Prooptiki miden: sa na lene kseroume oti eimaste mikroi kai den mas endiaferei na megalosoume oute na prosferoume theama se pollu kosmo...an einai etsi giati de mas adeiazoun tigonia na mpoun alloi pou tha feroun kai pio pollu kosmo; Ksexas, pos tha kanoun ti mpaza apo tin TV File h xwrhthkothta de sumbadizei apraithta me th logikh pou les...Yparxoun fantasika ghpeda mikrhs xwrhthtkothtas pou xtizontai ayth th stigmh...(Kai egw 8ewrw pws o Hra prepei na meinei sto Kaytatzoglio alla gia allous logous...) Gia rixe mia matia se kapoia ghpedakia kouklia pou xtizontai ayth th stimgh sthn Eyrwph kai 8a diapistwseis kai monos sou pws den epikratei h logikh tou "eimaste mikrh omada kai to xeroume..." www.stadiumguide.com/kooimeer.htm--Fantastiko ghpedo ---Alkmaar-Ollandia-13,500 www.stadiumguide.com/lavillenew.htm---Gallia-Gueugnon-17,000 (ena tetoio px ka8olou asxhmo de 8a htan gia ton Hraklh) www.stadiumguide.com/artevelde.htm--Belgio-Gent--20,000 (eidika ayto einai koukli) www.stadiumguide.com/charlestondreaunew.htm---Belgio-Mons-13,000 www.stadiumguide.com/denhaagnew.htmOllandia--ADO Den Haag-18,000 www.stadiumguide.com/euroborg.htm Ayto isws na einai kai to pio omorfo mikro tadio sto kosmo---Groningen--Ollandia-20,000 www.stadiumguide.com/zwollenew.htm--Ollandia---Zwolle-10,000 (molis 10,000, kanonika o Akrathtos eprepe na xtizei tetoio...alla edw etsi opws eimaste akoma kai gia ton Hraklh anaktoro 8a to 8ewrousan ) www.stadiumguide.com/borasarena.htm--Sth Souhdia --14,000--Elsborg Apo oti blepeis to mege8os polles fores de metraei Polla apo ayta ta mikra palatakia einai safos kalutera apo kati Pankrhtia, Kaytatzoglia ktlp...(sigoura se 8ema ais8htikhs toulaxiston, alla fantazomai kai se leitourghtkothta de 8a einai pisw) H ka8e omada perpei na xtizei ghpeda pou na xerei pws 8a ta gemizei KAI an de 8es na exei opws les logikh mikrhs omadas mporei na ta megalwsei argotera..Ena ghpedo 14,000-18,000 einai mia xara gia ton Hralkh Pw-pw re paidia kata8lipsh me epiase pali...Stis alles xwres xtizoune palatakia oi mikromesaies omades kai edw arxizoume twra kai xtizoume fusiologika ghpeda gia tis megales omades...
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Post by smarg on Dec 18, 2003 13:42:03 GMT -5
Ãéá íá óå ðéÜóåé êé Üëëç êáôÜèëéøç ;D áõôü ôï ðáëáôÜêé åßíáé êÜðïéáò ÉóðáíéêÞò ïìÜäáò "CD Logroñes" (äåí îÝñù óå ðïéá êáôçãïñßá ðáßæåé) åßíáé 16.000 èÝóåùí ôï ìéóü ôïõ ÊáñáúóêÜêç äçëáäÞ, äåí Ý÷åé íá æçëÝøåé ôßðïôá óå åìöÜíéóç, êáé ÷ôßóôçêå ôï 2002 Ôï üíïìÜ ôïõ åßíáé "Nuevo Las Gaunas"
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Post by starsailor on Dec 18, 2003 14:09:51 GMT -5
San mikro adelfaki tou Karaiskaki einai (i mallon megalutero adelfaki tou Karaiskaki (ka8ws pio palio, alla pio lepto kai konto ) Moiazoun para polu... Are telika eimaste akoma pio pisw apo oti nomiza.
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Post by BS on Dec 18, 2003 14:22:02 GMT -5
File h xwrhthkothta de sumbadizei apraithta me th logikh pou les...Yparxoun fantasika ghpeda mikrhs xwrhthtkothtas pou xtizontai ayth th stigmh ..... Pw-pw re paidia kata8lipsh me epiase pali...Stis alles xwres xtizoune palatakia oi mikromesaies omades kai edw arxizoume twra kai xtizoume fusiologika ghpeda gia tis megales omades... ÓêÝøïõ ôþñá ôé èá öôéÜîåé ï ÇÑÁ… ¢óå íá óå âïçèÞóù: Ýíá êáôáðëçêôéêü ãçðåäÜêé… óáí áõôü ôçò ÊáëáìáñéÜò. Ìðïñåß óôá ó÷Ýäéá íá Ý÷åé êáé ìéá áðÝíáíôé êåñêßäá áëëÜ åðåéäÞ óßãïõñá èá îåðåñáóôåß ï ðñïûðïëïãéóìüò, äåí èá ÷ôéóôåß, óáí ôçí óÞñáããá ôïõ Áñôåìéóßïõ. Êáé Ýôóé èá Ý÷ïõìå Üëëï Ýíá ãÞðåäï óáí ôçò ÊáëáìáñéÜò üðïõ ïé êÜìåñåò üôáí äåí èá ðáßñíïõí åðåéóüäéá, èá ìáò äåß÷íïõí ìðÜëá ìå öüíôï ôá áðÝíáíôé ÷ùñÜöéá…. Óõãíþìç ñå ðáéäéÜ áëëÜ êáìéÜ ïìÜäá ðïôÝ äåí ðëÞñùóå ôáñßöá óôçí ÅëëÜäá ãéá ôçí ÷ñÞóç åíüò ãçðÝäïõ áðü üóï èõìÜìáé (åêôüò ßóùò áðü ôá ëåéôïõñãéêÜ ðïõ äåí Þôáí óðïõäáßï ðïóü), ïé ÐÁÅ ðÜíôá äéáìáñôýñïíôáí ãéá Ýíá ÷áñÜôóé-ðïóïóôü áðü ôá åéóéôÞñéá ðïõ ðëÞñùíáí óôïõò äéêáéïý÷ïõò.
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Post by eksoristos on Dec 18, 2003 16:01:35 GMT -5
starsailor, emena de me noiazei toso pollu to thema tis xritikotitas... alloste i Ellada tha sumfoneis kai su den einai Ollandia i Belgio ston pluthismo (oute kai Gallia vevaios). Emena me parakseneuei to oti ena olokainourio gipedo-stadio kathistatai axristo en mia nukti...Auta pou tha skasei gia to gipedo o Hra einai ta leitourgika eksoda 10 kai vale xronon. Me enoxlei episis pou oi katoxoi tou gipedou -Benizelos- den exoun kanena provlima pou menei ousiastika axristo. me enoxlei i elleipsi programmatismou...den thelete kurioi Kautatzogleio; Asto na sapisei kai vale ti Larissa kai to Alkazar sto Olumpiako tournoua...kai dos tou lefta tou Hra na ftiaksei oti thelei. To provlima mou einai oti edo otan den uparxoun gipeda diamarturontai kai otan ftiaxnontai den tous aresoun.Kalo tha einai merikoi na katalavoun oti edo einai poluteleia na petas lefta gia gipeda pou den xreizontai.Oraio to gipedaki tis B' Ispanias alla nomizete oti o Hra tha ftiaksei tetoio; Na to do kai na min to pistepso...En katakleidi, to thema me tis xoritikotites me enoxlei giati tora pou uparxoun ta megala gipeda kapoioi sfurizoun adiafora kai ta lefta auta tha pane xamena. perito na po oti tin apopsi ton filathlon tin exoun grammeni ekei pou den pianei melani...
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Post by BS on Dec 18, 2003 17:45:56 GMT -5
starsailor, emena de me noiazei toso pollu to thema tis xritikotitas... alloste i Ellada tha sumfoneis kai su den einai Ollandia i Belgio ston pluthismo (oute kai Gallia vevaios)... Óõãíþìç åîüñéóôå áëëÜ óå ðëçèõóìü îåðåñíÜìå ôï ÂÝëãéï: BELGIUM 10.182.034 GREECE 10.707.135 NETHERLANDS 15.807.641
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