geo
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Post by geo on Aug 27, 2003 7:21:04 GMT -5
Exei dikio o nikos 21. Admin perimenoume axiopista nea dioti exei ginei enas xamos tis teleutaies imeres. Politeia, Politikoi, Dimos, Dimotes, PAE AEK, Granitsas, MME, Aektzides, oloi lene to makri kai to konto tous...Mexri pou diabasa oti o dimarxos tha proteinei tin kataskevi stadiou 45 000 theseon ....ELEOS...
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Post by exitmusician on Sept 5, 2003 11:40:13 GMT -5
Oi ekskafes ontws synexizontan me pio entatikous rythmous wspou irthe i gnwsti, fantazomai, xthesini apofasi kapoiou Efeteiou gia pafsi olws tvn ergasiwn mexri tin ekdikasi tis prosfygis sto StE ton Noemvrio. Akousa episis oti se arnitiki apofasi tou StE, i AEK skeftetai sovara na tin kanei pros Nea Iwnia meria. Kai afto tha borouse na eixe ginei nwritera...
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Post by Lord7 on Sept 7, 2003 4:06:43 GMT -5
Óçìåñá êõñéáêç ãñáöåé óôïí "ðñùôáèëçôç" ïôé ç áåê ÷ñùóôáåé 1.5 äéó. óôçí JP- ÁÂÁÎ êáé óêåöôåôáé óïâáñá ç åôáéñåéá íá óôåéëåé ôá ìç÷áíçìáôá ôçò óôï Êáñáéóêáêç êáé íá âïçèçóïõí åêåé ôéò åñãáóéåò, ðáñá íá ìáæåõïõí óêïíç óôçí öéëáäåëöåéá. Áíáññùôéåìáé ñå óåéò áåêôæéäåò ðùò áöçíåôå ôïí Ãñáíéôóá íá..... æåé áêïìá!!!
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Post by Vas on Sept 7, 2003 7:59:30 GMT -5
File Lord.... O Protathliths ta egrapse auta oxi h efimerida ths kiverniseos!! Me pianeis...
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Post by Loufakis on Sept 7, 2003 9:16:53 GMT -5
Ôï ãñÜöåé êáé ôï Åèíïò
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Post by PAO on Sept 8, 2003 2:18:45 GMT -5
Dhladh stamathsan h proxwrane ta erga sthn Nea Filadelfeia ? O GianGran einai mustikopa8hs an8rwpos !! Oi fila8loi ths aek dikaiountai plhrhs enhmerwsh gia to neo ghpedo ths agaphmenhs omadas tous !!
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NiMos
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Post by NiMos on Sept 12, 2003 9:36:51 GMT -5
Shmera stamathsan kai oi opoies ergasies synexizontan sto ghpedo, me thn koinopoihsh ths apofashs tou StE... Ola 8a kri8oun sthn ekdikash ths ypo8eshs stis 5 Noembrh... www.sportaction.gr/news_detail.cfm?news_id=64686&cat_id=1&parent_id=0Pantws, yparxoun kai xeirotera... Kotzam Arsenal, kai ths stamathsan ta erga gia to kainourio stadio sto Ashburton Grove, www.stadiumguide.com/ashburtongrove.htmepeidh to topiko symboulio den enekrine thn allagh 8eshs mias rampas tou parking... H rampa ayth prepei na alla3ei 8esh, dioti o arxikos sxediasmos proeblepe thn apallotroiwsh enos..taxydromeiou, pou telika den mporei na ginei... Malista oi trapezes pou xrhmatodotoun to ergo kai 8a exoun thn ekmetalleush, arxisan na problhmatizontai me th nea ka8ysterhsh kai yparxei periptwsh akoma kai akyrwshs olou tou ergou !!! Diabasa ki ena ar8ro se efhmerida, pou milouse gia pi8anh xrhsh tou neou Wembley apo thn Arsenal (kai isws Tottenham)...kati pou diepseuse h Arsenal...
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Post by exitmusician on Sept 13, 2003 5:03:45 GMT -5
Ta erga ontws stamatisan entelws. Prin apo 2-3 meres o Granitsas synantithike me ekproswpous opadwn tis AEK kai tous eksefrase, metaksy allwn, ti sigouria tou oti to gipedo tha ginei kai oti yparxei enallaktiko sxedio se periptwsi pou i apofasi tis synedriasis tou StE tin 5/11 einai arnitiki. To enallaktiko sxedio afora ton idio xwro kai peripou tin idia xvritikotita (30.000).
Pistevw pantws oti o Granitsas einai pareksigimenos anthrwpos. Se ena perivallon pseftomagkias, tsabouka, thrasydeilias klp. opws einai to "epaggelmatiko" podosfairo stin Ellada, einai isws o monos pou krata ena epipedo kai xamilous tonous. Afto tou to katalogizoun, adika kata ti gnwmi mou, ws malthakotita kai anapofasistikotita.
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Post by Admin on Sept 13, 2003 5:29:30 GMT -5
Óõìöùíþ ìå ôçí êñßóç óïõ ãéá ôïí ÷áñáêôÞñá ôïõ Ãñáíßôóá. ¸÷ù üìùò óïâáñüôáôåò åíóôÜóåéò óå ü,ôé áöïñÜ ôïí ôñüðï ðïõ ÷åéñßæåôáé ôï üëï èÝìá ôïõ ãçðÝäïõ.
Åßíáé áíåðßôñåðôï íá ìçí îåêáèáñßæåé ôïí ôñüðï ÷ñçìáôïäüôçóçò ôïõ Ýñãïõ åäþ êáé ôüóï êáéñü.
Åßíáé áíåðßôñåðôï íá ðñï÷ùñÜåé óôçí êáôåäÜöéóç ôïõ "Íßêïò Ãêïýìáò" ðñïêåéìÝíïõ íá ðéÝóåé ãéá ôçí Üñïí Üñïí Ýíôáîç ôïõ íÝïõ ãçðÝäïõ óôá ÏëõìðéáêÜ Ýñãá, ×ÙÑÉÓ íá Ý÷åé äéáóöáëßóåé ðùò ðñÜãìáôé ìðïñåß Üìåóá íá ðñï÷ùñÞóåé óôçí áíïéêïäüìçóÞ ôïõ. Õðïôßìçóå ôéò ðéèáíÝò áíôéäñÜóåéò áðü ôç íÝá - õðïóôçñéæüìåíç áðü ôç ÍÄ - äçìïôéêÞ áñ÷Þ; Õðåñôßìçóå ôç äéÜèåóç Þ ôéò äõíáôüôçôåò ôïõ êüììáôïò ðïõ õðïóôçñßæåé (ÐÁÓÏÊ) íá ôïí âïçèÞóåé; ¼ðùò êáé íá Ý÷åé, ôï áðïôÝëåóìá äåí ôïí äéáêáéþíåé - ãéá ôçí þñá ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí.
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Post by panther21 on Sept 13, 2003 10:10:31 GMT -5
Êáôáñ÷áò êáëçóðåñá.
Ëïéðïí,ôï ãçðåäï åéíáé óôá Ïëõìðéáêá åñãá öéëå admin êáé êáíåéò ëáèïò åáí ðéóôåõåéò ôï áíôéèåôï. Óôï äéêáóôçñéï ìáëéóôá,èá êáôáèåóåé êáé ôï 2004 õðåñ ôçò ÁÅÊ. Ôï ïôé äåí åéíáé óôïí ó÷åäéáóìï,äåí óçìáéíåé ïôé äåí åéíáé Ïëõìðéáêï åñãï,ìçí ôá ìðåñäåõåéò. Äçëáäç,åáí êáé åöïóùí åéíáé áõôï åôïéìï ìå÷ñé ôçí Ïëõìðéáäá,èá ÷ñçóçìïðïéçèåé óáí ðñïðïíçôçôçñéï êáôá ôçí äéáñêåéá ôùí áãùíùí. Êáôá äåõôåñïí èá ðñåðåé íá îåêáèáñéóïõìå åíá ðñáãìáôáêé ðïõ ïëïé ìá ïëïé(ðñïöáíùò ëïãù áó÷åôïóõíçò?)ïé äçìïóéïãñáöïé êáíïõí ëáèïò(åóêåììåíá êáôá ôçí áðïøç ìïõ)êáé ðáñáðëçñïöïñïõí ôïí êïóìï. Ôçí ÷ñçìáôïäïôçóç åéôå ôçí å÷åé åéôå äåí ôçí å÷åé åîáóöáëéóåé ï Ãñáíéôóáò(åãù ãíùñéæù ðùò åéíáé åîáóöáëéóìåíç êáé áìá èåëåéò óïõ åîçãù ôï ðùò êáé ôï ãéáôé) äåí å÷åé äéêáéùìá íá ôçí áíáêïéíùóåé êáíåéò ðñéí âãåé ç áäåéá áíåãåñóçò. Áõôï åãêåéôå óôéò óõìâáóåéò ôéò ïðïéåò å÷ïõí õðïãñáøåé ïé 2 ðëåõñåò ìåôáîõ ôïõò. Ìå ôï ðïõ âãåé ç áäåéá,èá áíáêïéíùèïõí êáé ïé ÷ñçìáôïäïôåò.
Åé÷åò êáíåé åíá ðïóô,óôï [ftp]www.aek.com[/ftp] êáé óõãêåêñéìåíá óôçí åîçò äéåõèõíóç: [ftp]http://www.aek.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=004659[/ftp] Åéðåò êáðïéá ðñáãìáôá êáé å÷èåò óïõ áðáíôçóå ôï ðáéäé óå ðïõ ìáò åíçìåñùíåé ðáíù óôï èåìá. Áí èåò ìðåò êáé ñéîå ìéá ìáôéá,å÷åé åîáéñåôéêá åíäéáöåñïí ñåðïñôáæ ãéá ôï ãçðåäï êáé áðï ôçí ôåëåõôáéá óõíáíôçóç Ãñáíéôóá ìå ïðáäïõò. Åõ÷áñéóôù.
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Post by Admin on Sept 13, 2003 16:43:05 GMT -5
Öáßíåôáé üôé äåí ìéëÜù êáëÜ ôá åëëçíéêÜ, äåí åîçãåßôáé áëëéþò...
ÐÜìå ëïéðüí îáíÜ íá äïýìå ôé Ýãñáøá:
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Áõôü Ýãñáøá. Êáé ìïõ áðáíôÜò üôé ïé ÷ñçìáôïäüôåò äåí åðéôñÝðåôáé íá áíáêïéíùèïýí ðñéí âãåé ç Üäåéá áíÝãåñóçò! Áõôü åßðá åãþ ößëå ìïõ;;;
Ôï ìüíï ðïõ æçôÜù (ùò ößëáèëïò) åßíáé íá ìïõ îåêáèáñßóåé ï êýñéïò Ãñáíßôóáò ìåôÜ áðü ÔÏÓÏ êáéñü ðïõ ìáò áðáó÷ïëåß áõôü ôï èÝìá ðïéüò åßíáé ï ôñüðïò ÷ñçìáôïäüôçóçò, ü÷é ðïéïß åßíáé ïé ÷ñçìáôïäüôåò! Äåí ôï êáôáëáâáßíù ãéáôß ðñÝðåé íá åðéêñáôåß "ïìåñôÜ" êáé íá ìç âãåé êáé íá ðåé:
"Êýñéïé, èá âÜëïõí Ýíá ìÝñïò êÜðïéåò ôñÜðåæåò ìå äÜíåéá (áò ìçí ðåé ôá ïíüìáôá áí äåí èÝëåé áêüìá) ìå åããýçóç ôá Ýóïäá áðü ôéò åìðïñéêÝò ÷ñÞóåéò, èá âÜëïõí Ýíá Üëëï ìÝñïò êÜðïéïé åðåíäõôÝò (ðÜëé, áò ìçí ðåé ðïéïß) ðïõ èá åêìåôáëëåýïíôáé óôç óõíÝ÷åéá êÜðïéï êïììÜôé ôïõ Ýñãïõ (ðÜëé áò ìçí ðåé ðïéü, ð.÷. ôá óéíåìÜ, ôï óõíåäñéáêü êÝíôñï Þ áò ìçí ðåé ãéá ðüóá ÷ñüíéá èá åßíáé ç óýìâáóç), èá âÜëåé ôï êñÜôïò êÜðïéï êïììÜôé (áò ìçí ðåé ðüóï) êëð."
Ôüóï äýóêïëï åßíáé íá îåêáèáñßóåé óå áäñÝò ãñáììÝò êÜðïéá ðñÜãìáôá; ¸ëåïò äçëáäÞ!
¼óï ãéá ôï ÁÅÊ.com, èá áðáíôÞóù Üìåóá óôá üóá ãñÜöåé ôï ðáéäß åêåß. Óôï site áõôü ãßíåôáé ðïëý êáëÞ äïõëåéÜ êáé õðÜñ÷ïõí ðïëëÜ Üôïìá ìå ðïëý ìåñÜêé êáé êáëÞ åíçìÝñùóç. Äåí áíôéëáìâÜíïìáé üìùò ôç óõíå÷éæüìåíç åðßèåóç áðü êÜðïéïõò ðïõ íïìßæïõí üôé áõôïß êáôÝ÷ïõí ôçí "ìüíç áëÞèåéá" êáé ü,ôé ãñÜöåôáé äéáöïñåôéêü Ý÷åé "ðïíçñÜ êßíçôñá" Þ åßíáé ëüãù "áó÷åôïóýíçò"! Ôï êáêü åßíáé ðùò äåí ìðïñþ íá áðïêáëýøù ôéò ðçãÝò ìïõ. Áí ôï Ýêáíá óßãïõñá èá Ýêëåéíá ðïëëÜ óôüìáôá, áëëÜ äåí èá Þèåëá ìå ôßðïôá íá åêèÝóù ôïõò áíèñþðïõò ðïõ ìå ôéìïýí ìå ôçí åìðéóôïóýíç ôïõò êáé ìïõ áðïêáëýðôïõí üóá áðü ÐÑÙÔÏ ÷Ýñé (ðéï ðñþôï ÄÅÍ ãßíåôáé) îÝñïõí.
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Post by PAO on Sept 15, 2003 1:21:07 GMT -5
"Êýñéïé, èá âÜëïõí Ýíá ìÝñïò êÜðïéåò ôñÜðåæåò ìå äÜíåéá (áò ìçí ðåé ôá ïíüìáôá áí äåí èÝëåé áêüìá) ìå åããýçóç ôá Ýóïäá áðü ôéò åìðïñéêÝò ÷ñÞóåéò, èá âÜëïõí Ýíá Üëëï ìÝñïò êÜðïéïé åðåíäõôÝò (ðÜëé, áò ìçí ðåé ðïéïß) ðïõ èá åêìåôáëëåýïíôáé óôç óõíÝ÷åéá êÜðïéï êïììÜôé ôïõ Ýñãïõ (ðÜëé áò ìçí ðåé ðïéü, ð.÷. ôá óéíåìÜ, ôï óõíåäñéáêü êÝíôñï Þ áò ìçí ðåé ãéá ðüóá ÷ñüíéá èá åßíáé ç óýìâáóç), èá âÜëåé ôï êñÜôïò êÜðïéï êïììÜôé (áò ìçí ðåé ðüóï) êëð." Exei dikio o Admin !!! Toso duskolo einai re ? ...
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Post by exitmusician on Sept 15, 2003 5:49:15 GMT -5
Dyskolo den einai, alla den katalavainw poia tha einai i prostithemeni aksia mias tetoias dilwsis.
Tis genikes leptomereies tis xrimatodotisis nomizw oti tis gnwrizoume, eksallou den einai kai kamia epistimoniki fantasia me ola osa exoume akousei. To simantiko tha itan na dwsei leptomeri perigrafi twn orwn tis ependysis, me noumera. Efoson to ergo einai ston aera, na vgei na pei ti? Na dwsei xrimatooikonomika stoixeia gia mia ependysi pou (pros stigmi) einai ston aera?
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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2003 6:59:56 GMT -5
San politis aftou tou kratous, apo to opoio o kyrios Granitsas zitise kai pire (kai poly kala ekane) oikonomiki enisxysi gia tin kataskevi tou neou gipedou, tha elega oti exw tin apaitisi na vgei kai na ksekatharisei afto to zitima.
Pws mporeis na les oti den katalavaineis ti mporei na prosferei afto? Kai akomi, ti paei na pei "giati na dwsei stoixeia afou to ergo einai ston aera"? Poion aera? Edw gkremistike ena gipedo me tin prooptiki na ktistei ena allo, me tropo pou o ypefthynos den thelei na apokalypsei! Ektos kai an esena se kalyptei i aoristologia "me aftoxrimatodotisi"!
Einai asteio kai na to syzitame pws afti i mystikopatheia einai aparadekti. Meta malista, to epanalamvanw, apo TOSO KAIRO pou yparxei afto to thema kai pou mporei (opws eixa grapsei kai palaiotera) na ypothikefsei to mellon tis AEK.
To kserw oti to erwtima pou thetw einai enoxlitiko gia pollous filous tis AEK, pou me to dikio tous "kaigontai" gia ena neo gipedo-stolidi. Apla thelw na skeftoun ligo pio makroprothesma tis synepeies enos tyxon (to tonizw, den eimai Kassandra) kakou sxediasmou. Kai to asximo einai oti analoga paradeigmata yparxoun polla, akomi kai stin pio proigmeni apo emas se afto ton tomea dytiki Evrwpi.
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Post by exitmusician on Sept 15, 2003 7:51:53 GMT -5
Den diafwnw oti i mystikopatheia einai aparadekti kai oti den ofeilei na dwsei eksigiseis. Afto pou ennoousa me to proigoumeno post einai giati na ginei enimerwsi afti ti sygkekrimeni periodo, dil. mexri tis 5/11? Mexri tote ta pragmata tha einai stasima me pithanotita na min proxwrisei to ergo, oxi eksaitias tis adynamias xrimatodotisis alla logw tritwn. As parei to teliko OK i AEK apo to StE kai meta as apaitisoume na vgei na mas pei ta panta.
To oti to gipedo tha vriskotan twra ston aera den borouse na to kserei otan erikse to N. Goumas, giati antidraseis opws afti twn 131 den borousan na provleftoun oso ki an eixe gnwsi twn antidrasewn apo orismenes politikes paratakseis. Tin periodo prin tin prosfygi eprepe na eixe vgei kai na eixe milisei gia ola ta themata tis xrimatodotisis.
Apo tin alli pali isws den exei milisei ws twra giati perimene oti kati tetoio tha ginotan...
Kata ta alla den diafwnw katholou mazi sou. Aplws pistevw oti tha itan astoxo na milisei tin sygkekrimeni xroniki stigmi.
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