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Post by Giorgos on Nov 13, 2003 4:23:10 GMT -5
oles oi xores toy kosmoy frodizoyn na kataskeyazoyn aerodromia. Ta aerodromia einai moxloi anaptixis tis oikonomias kai xriazonte polla dis gia na ftiaxtun. Efososn exume ena etimo se ypodomi aerodromio sto asfalestero simeio tis Attikis parakalo peste mu giati na to katastrepsume ; To elliniko egine me dika sas lefta kai eseis 8elete na to katastrepsete ; Trsiekatomiria kostiose ke eseis ta petate etsi ;
Eiste Ellines eseis ;
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Post by niemand on Nov 13, 2003 4:28:29 GMT -5
Ðïõ' óáé ñå Giorgos; Öóóóóóóóóô, ìðüéíãê !!!!!!!!!
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Post by gm2263 on Nov 13, 2003 4:31:30 GMT -5
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èá áðáíôÞóù ôï âñÜäé. Óõìöùíþ óôï óêÝëïò ãéá ôïõò áåñáèëçôÝò áëëá ãéá ôç ëåãüìåíç õðüëïéðç ÃåíéêÞ áåñïðïñßá äåí îÝñù...
Ïóïí áöïñÜ ôï áåñïäñüìéï ôïõ Åëëçíéêïý, ßóùò èá ìðïñïýóå íá ðáßîåé ôï ñüëï ôïõ London City Airport êáé íá äÝ÷åôáé ìéêñÜ áåñïóêÜöç óå Ýíá äéÜäñïìï ôï ðïëý 1500 ìÝôñùí Þ êÜôé ôÝôïéï, óå óõíäéáóìü êáé ìå ôéò Üëëåò áãêáôáóôÜóåéò ðïõ õðÜñ÷ïõí ßóùò åêåß. Åðßóçò, èá Þôáí êáëü åêåß äßðëá áðï ôá óõíåäñéáêÜ êÝíôñá íá ãéíüôáí êáé Ýíá áåñïðïñéêü ìïõóåßï.
Ôï èÝìá åßíáé, ðáñ' üëá áõôÜ, üôé ôï áåñïäñüìéï ôùí ÓðÜôùí ÅÐÑÅÐÅ ÍÁ ÃÉÍÅÉ, ôåëåßá êáé ðáýëá. Ïóï ãéá ôï ñüëï ôïõ Äçìïóßïõ, åêåß êé' áí óõìöùíþ ìå ôïí ypsilon. Õðïôßèåôáé üìùò üôé óõæçôÜìå ãéá äñáóôçñéüôçôåò ïé ïðïßåò èá öÝñïõí ÷ñÞìá óôï êñÜôïò, áëëïéþò... íáé, óõìöùíþ üôé ïñéóìÝíá áèëÞìáôá êáé äñáóôçñéüôçôåò äåí ìðïñåß íá ôéò ÷ñçìáôïäïôåß ôï êñÜôïò üôáí äåí Ý÷ïõìå íïóïêïìåßá êáé Üëëá âáóéêÜ ðñÜãìáôá.
Ôá ëÝìå ôï âñÜäõ, all of you...
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Post by Ypsilon on Nov 15, 2003 5:49:52 GMT -5
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¼ôáí ëåò õðüëïéðç ãåíéêÞ áåñïðïñßá, åííïåßò áåñïðëÜíá ãéá øåêáóìïýò, áåñïäéáêïìéäÝò áóèåíþí, åëéêüðôåñá êëð; Ãéá ï,ôéäÞðïôå õðÜñ÷åé áëëçëåîÜñôçóç ìå ôï Äçìüóéï, èá ìðïñïýóå íá åß÷å ãßíåé åéäéêÞ óõìöùíßá ìå ôï "ElVel" (ôé äéÜïëï, Ý÷åé êáé ôï êñÜôïò ìåñßäéï óôï áåñïäñüìéï, êáé ìÜëéóôá ìåãÜëï, óõíåðþò Ý÷åé êáé ëüãï), ïýôùò þóôå ïé ÷ñåþóåéò ãéá ôï ÷ñüíï êáé ôç èÝóç ðáñêáñßóìáôïò, íá ìçí õðÜãïíôáé óôçí ôéìïëïãéáêÞ ðïëéôéêÞ ôùí åðéâáôéêþí áåñïðëÜíùí. ¸ôóé ãßíåôáé óôï åîùôåñéêü. Ôá lear jets äåí ôá ðéÜíïõìå êáèüëïõ, üóïé ìðïñïýí íá ôá Ý÷ïõí, ìðïñïýí êáé íá óçêþóïõí ôá âÜñç ôçò ÷ñÞóçò ôïõò. ÅíáëëáêôéêÜ ìå ôá ðáñáðÜíù, ç ãåíéêÞ áåñïðïñßá äåí Ý÷åé ðñüâëçìá íá âñåé óôÝãç óôá óôñáôéùôéêÜ áåñïäñüìéá, äüîá ôù Èåþ äåí ìáò ëåßðïõí áðü ôï ëåêáíïðÝäéï, êáé äåí åßíáé êáé ìïíÜäåò ìÜ÷çò, ïðüôå ôá ðñÜãìáôá åßíáé áêüìá ðéï åýêïëá. ÌéëÜù ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí ãéá ôçí Åëåõóßíá ðïõ åßíáé ç âÜóç ôùí ìåôáãùãéêþí êáé ôùí ðõñïóâåóôéêþí, ãéá ôçí ÔáíÜãñá äåí åßìáé óßãïõñïò, üðïéïò îÝñåé ìå äéïñèþíåé.
Ó÷åôéêÜ ìå ôï Åëëçíéêü, èá ìðïñïýóå íá ãßíåé óáí ôï London City Airport, áëëÜ ôï êüóôïò ëåéôïõñãßáò ôïõ èá Þôáí ìåãáëýôåñï áðü ôá êÝñäç ôïõ. ÅðéðëÝïí, èá äÝóìåõå ìéá ðåñéï÷Þ ðïõ åßíáé ðñïôéìüôåñï íá ãßíåé ðÜñêï, êáé áí õëïðïéïýíôáí áõôü ôï ó÷Ýäéï èá ÷Üíáìå êé áõôÞí ôçí åõêáéñßá. ¼ôáí åðåêôáèåß ôï áåñïäñüìéï óôá ÓðÜôá, îÝñù ðùò õðÜñ÷åé óýìâáóç íá éêáíïðïéçèåß êáé ç êßíçóç ôùí ìéêñüôåñùí áåñïóêáöþí, ìå äéáöïñåôéêïýò -ôéìïëïãéáêïýò- üñïõò áð´ü,ôé ãßíåôáé ìÝ÷ñé óÞìåñá, áëëÜ êáé ìå äéáöïñåôéêïýò üñïõò áóöÜëåéáò õðÝñðôçóçò êáé åëéãìþí ãéá ôéò ðñïóáðïãåéþóåéò. Êé áõôü ãéáôß üëïé ðáñáäÝ÷ïíôáé ðùò ç ãåíéêÞ áåñïðïñßá äåí Ý÷åé áêüìá ôéò áíÜãêåò êáé ôç äõíáìéêÞ ðïõ Ý÷åé óå Üëëåò ÷þñåò ôçò Åõñþðçò, ùóôüóï õðïôßèåôáé ðùò ÷ôßæåéò Ýíá áåñïäñüìéï êïéôþíôáò ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí 50 ÷ñüíéá ìðñïóôÜ. Ôï ìïõóåßï ôçò ðïëéôéêÞò áåñïðïñßáò, îÝñù ðùò Ý÷åé ðñïâëåöèåß ãéá ôï ðáëéü Áíáôïëéêü.
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Post by gm2263 on Nov 15, 2003 6:17:41 GMT -5
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Åõ÷ïìáé åéëéêñéíÜ ïé ÷þñïé ôïõ áåñïäñïìßïõ ôïõ Åëëçíéêïý íá äéáôåèïýí ãéá ôéò ðñïâëåðüìåíåò ÷ñÞóåéò. èá ìðïñïýóá íá óõìöùíÞóù êáé ãéá ôá õðüëïéðá åöüóïí ôï London City Airport åîõðçñåôåß áíÜãêåò ðïõ ðéèáíüí ç ÁèÞíá ìáò ðïôÝ äåí èá Ý÷åé (ìéëÜìå ãéá ìéá åëßô åðé÷åéñçìáôéþí ðïõ óå éêáíÜ íïýìåñá íá ìðïñåß óõíôçñåß ìéá ñïÞ êñáôéêþí åóüäùí). Áò Ýëèïõí ðñþôá ïé îÝíïé åäþ íá êÜíïõí åðåíäýóåéò êáé âëÝðïõìå...
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Post by exitmusician on Nov 15, 2003 6:45:43 GMT -5
ÄÅÍ ÕТÑ×ÅÉ áåñïäñïìéï áðïêëåéóôéêá ãéá ôç ãåíéêç áåñïðïñéá óôçí ÁôôéêÞ ëßãïõò ìÞíåò ðñßí ôïõò áãþíåò. ¸÷åé ãßíåé ìåëÝôç áðü ôïí Ä.Á.Á. ãéá ôçí äçìéïõñãßá åãêáôáóôÜóåùí ãéá ôçí åîõðçñÝôçóç ôçò ãåíéêÞò áåñïðïñßáò óôï ELVEL. Óýíôïìá èá êáôáóêåõáóôïýí ïé åãêáôáóôÜóåéò áõôÝò. ÌÜëéóôá ç ìåëÝôç óêïðéìüôçôáò åß÷å áñêåôÜ êáëÜ áðïôåëÝóìáôá. Åßíáé ðÜíôùò ðñüèåóç ôïõ êñÜôïõò, êáé ìÜëéóôá óå ðñùèõðïõñãéêü åðßðåäï, íá êáôáóêåõáóôïýí. Ôï êñÜôïò ôï èÝëïõìå Ýîù áðü ôçí ðüñôá ôïõ óðéôéïý ìáò, ãéáôß Ýôóé ìÜèáìå, ãéáôß äåí ìðïñïýìå íá êÜíïõìå êÜôé ÐÑÉÍ ôï êñÜôïò, Ý÷ïõìå áöÞóåé ôïí åõäáéìïíéóìü ìáò óôá ÷Ýñéá ôùí ÷áñôïãéáêÜäùí, ðïõ üóï êé áí åßíáé ãéá ðïëëÝò ìðÜôóåò êáé ôïõò öôýíù ìÝñá-íý÷ôá, åíôïýôïéò äåí ìðïñþ íá áðïðïéçèþ ôéò äéêÝò ìïõ åõèýíåò. ¸ôóé áêñéâþò åßíáé. "Äåí õðÜñ÷åé ðïëéôåßá", ëåò êáé åìåßò äåí áðïôåëïýìå ôìÞìá ôçò ðïëéôåßáò... Ãéá üëá öôáßíå ïé Üëëïé...
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Post by Giorgos on Nov 17, 2003 3:46:14 GMT -5
Min fobaste De prokite na ginei parko.
To aerodromio Ellinikoy 8a xanalitourgisei poly sintoma.
To kalitero aerodromio poy eixe h A8hna stin istoria tis den prokite na katastrafei, dioti den ginetai na katastrafei poly apla.
ZHTW to ELLHNIKO ! TO DIKO MAS AERODROMIO !
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Post by PAO on Nov 17, 2003 5:24:13 GMT -5
Êáëá êñáóéá
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Post by Go Europe on Nov 17, 2003 7:16:10 GMT -5
Min fobaste De prokite na ginei parko. To aerodromio Ellinikoy 8a xanalitourgisei poly sintoma. To kalitero aerodromio poy eixe h A8hna stin istoria tis den prokite na katastrafei, dioti den ginetai na katastrafei poly apla. ZHTW to ELLHNIKO ! TO DIKO MAS AERODROMIO ! Yeah right! To Elliniko tha xanaleitourgisei tin idia mera me tin theologiki sxoli tis Chalkis (alli ponemeni Istoria) Tora apo pou kai os pou itan to Elliniko to kallitero aerodromio tis Athinas (etsi kai allios den eixe kai allo) , mono i fantasia oson menoun sta notia proastia kai varountai na pane Sto El. Venizelos, I OSON EXOUN PROSOPIKO simferon apo to Elliniko. Gi'afto terma oi dithen romantismoi!! Den eimaste 5 xronvn!
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Post by chris on Nov 17, 2003 9:13:51 GMT -5
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to ellhniko papala (sth glwsa twn mwrwn) ma8ete na zeite me thn "apoleia" an oxi metakomiste sta spata.
Giorgo an 8es ellhniko pare ena pano kai kateba mono sou sto dromo, den pisteuw oti 8a se akolou8hsoun polloi, edw den fwna3an otan ksekinhsan na to gkremizoun twra 8a kateboun sto dromo gia poreies;;;;;;
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Post by proedros on Nov 17, 2003 10:35:28 GMT -5
Min fobaste De prokite na ginei parko. To aerodromio Ellinikoy 8a xanalitourgisei poly sintoma. To kalitero aerodromio poy eixe h A8hna stin istoria tis den prokite na katastrafei, dioti den ginetai na katastrafei poly apla. ZHTW to ELLHNIKO ! TO DIKO MAS AERODROMIO ! Re file plaka mas kaneis mallon kai emeis tsampa xanoume to xrono mas na apantame.
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Post by exitmusician on Nov 18, 2003 5:47:41 GMT -5
Min fobaste De prokite na ginei parko. Åõôõ÷þò! Ôþñá áíáêïõößóôçêá! Ìáò Ý÷ïõí ãåìßóåé óôá ðÜñêá ñå ð@@@@ç ìïõ
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Post by Gio on Nov 28, 2003 4:35:54 GMT -5
Akoyo poy milate gia Mitropolitiko parko sto Elliniko kai rotao apla : Poio eggrafo diabasate kai elege oti to Lgat 8a ginei parko ; Dioti ta sxedia tis paroysas kybernisis milane gia OIKISTIKH ANAPTYXH kai oti apomeinei (…oti apomeinei an apomeinei poy den 8a apomeinei) 8a ginei parko. Epiteloys as sobareytoyme. Yparxoyn 2 krisimotatoi paragontes toys opoioys agnoei o kosmos:
1.Oi diadromoi den exoyn peiraxtei ka8oloy dioti to kostos katastrofis toys einai dysbastaxto 2.Enallaktiko aerodromio stin A8ina den yparxei kai oyte yparxoyn lefta gia na kataskeyastei alloy kai erxontai kai oi Olympiakoi me tin kinisi sta Spata na ftanei sto zeni8 !
To Aerodromio Ellinikoy prepi na paramini aerodromio opos itan efedriko pros ta Spata
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Post by exitmusician on Nov 28, 2003 8:22:19 GMT -5
1. Áðü in.gr, 24 Ïêôùâñßïõ,
"ÁèÞíá : Íá äéåîá÷èåß äéåèíÞò äéáãùíéóìüò ãéá ôï Ìçôñïðïëéôéêü ÐÜñêï ôïõ Åëëçíéêïý ìå åêäÞëùóç åíäéáöÝñïíôïò ôïí ðñïóå÷Þ ÄåêÝìâñéï áðïöáóßóôçêå ôçí ÐáñáóêåõÞ óå óýóêåøç õðü ôïí ðñùèõðïõñãü Êþóôá Óçìßôç ìå ôïõò õðïõñãïýò Ïéêïíïìßáò Íßêï ×ñéóôïäïõëÜêç, ÐÅ×ÙÄÅ ÂÜóù ÐáðáíäñÝïõ êáé Ðïëéôéóìïý ÅõÜããåëï Âåíßæåëï.
Ôï Ìçôñïðïëéôéêü ÐÜñêï èá äçìéïõñãçèåß óôïí ÷þñï ôïõ ðáëáéïý áåñïäñïìßïõ êáé èá Ý÷åé åìâáäüí 4.000 óôñÝììáôá, åíþ üðùò Ý÷åé Þäç áðïöáóéóôåß, ðåñßðïõ 1.000 óôñÝììáôá ðÝñáí ôùí 4.000 èá äïèïýí ãéá ïéêéóôéêÞ áíÜðôõîç.
¼ðùò äéåõêñßíçóå ï õöõðïõñãüò Ôýðïõ ÔçëÝìá÷ïò ×õôÞñçò, áðü ôï äéåèíÞ äéáãùíéóìü èá ðñïêõøåé ôé åßäïõò ðÜñêï èá êáôáóêåõáóôåß êáé ðùò èá ÷ùñïèåôçèåß óôç óõãêåêñéìÝíç Ýêôáóç.
Åßíáé ãíùóôü üôé óôï ÷þñï ôïõ ðáëáéïý áåñïäñïìßïõ èá ðáñáìåßíïõí ïé åãêáôáóôÜóåéò ôïõ Áíáôïëéêïý ÁåñïëéìÝíá ðïõ èá ëåéôïõñãÞóïõí ùò óõíåäñéáêÜ êÝíôñá êáèþò êáé ïñéóìÝíåò áèëçôéêÝò åãêáôáóôÜóåéò. ¼ëåò ïé Üëëåò åãêáôáóôÜóåéò ðïõ õðÜñ÷ïõí (óôñáôéùôéêÝò êëð.) èá áðïìáêñõíèïýí.
Ï ê. ×õôÞñçò äéåõêñßíçóå üôé èá ãßíïõí êáé Üëëåò ìåëåôåò ãéá ôï ôìÞìá ðïõ èá äïèåß ãéá ïéêéóôéêÞ áíáðôõîç, åíþ üôáí èá ÷ñåéáóôåß èá óõóôáèåß öïñÝáò ãéá ôï Ìçôñïðïëéôéêü ÐÜñêï. Ðñïò ôï ðáñüí üìùò ôÝôïéïò öïñÝáò äåí èá óõóôáèåß."
"Åðßóçìï Ýããñáöï" äåí ãíùñßæù áêüìá, áëëÜ ï ÄåêÝìâñéïò Ýéíáé êïíôÜ êáé ç åðßóçìç ðñïêÞñõîç ãéá ôçí åêäÞëùóç åíäéáöÝñïíôïò ãéá ôï ðÜñêï èá ðñÝðåé íá åêðëçñþíåé ôéò áðáéôÞóåéò óïõ. Åãþ ðÜíôùò Ýíá îÝñù: åõêáéñßá ãéá ðÜñêï 4.000 óôñåìÜôùí äåí ðñüêåéôáé íá îáíááðïêôÞóåé ç ÁèÞíá ðïôÝ.
2. Óôïí ÄÁÁ õðÜñ÷åé åðéêïõñéêüò ôåñìáôéêüò óôáèìüò (satellite terminal), ï ïðïßïò Ý÷åé êáôáóêåõáóôåß ãéá íá åîõðçñåôÞóåé ôç ìåëëïíôéêÞ æÞôçóç êáé äåí ëåéôïõñãåß áõÞ ôç óôéãìÞ. Ïé åêôéìÞóåéò ôùí óôåëå÷þí ôïõ ÄÁÁ åßíáé üôé äåí èá ÷ñåéáóôåß íá ëåéôïõñãÞóåé êáôÜ ôç äéÜñêåéá ôùí Áãþíùí áõôüò ï ôåñìáôéêüò óôáèìüò.
Ç ôåëéêÞ öÜóç áíÜðôõîçò ôïõ ÄÁÁ ðñïâëÝðåé ôçí êáôáóêåõÞ äåýôåñïõ terminal êáé ãéá óõíïëéêÜ åîõðçñåôïýìåíç êßíçóç 50 åêáôïììõñßùí åðéâáôþí åôçóßùò. ÓÞìåñá ç êßíçóç åßíáé ðåñßðïõ 12,5 åê. åðéâÜôåò. Åßíáé ëïéðüí öáíåñü üôé äåí ÷ñåéÜæåôáé äåýôåñï áåñïäñüìéï óôçí ÁèÞíá. ÃåíéêÜ ç óýã÷ñïíç ôÜóç ðëÝïí åßíáé íá õðÜñ÷åé Ýíá ìåãÜëï ðïëéôéêü áåñïäñüìéï óå êÜèå ðüëç. Óå ðåñßðôùóç Ýêôáêôçò áíÜãêçò (Èåüò öõëÜîïé) õðÜñ÷åé ç ÔáíÜãñá, ç ÄåêÝëåéá, ï ¢ñáîïò, ç Áíäñáâßäá êëð.
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Post by Ellinas on Dec 2, 2003 4:20:09 GMT -5
SYMBOYLH SE OLOYS TOYS KATANALOTES
MH KSEHNATE OTI TO AERODROMIO STA SPATA EINAI GERMANIKO KAI OLES OI EISPRAXEIS PANE STH GERMANIKH ETAIREIA.
BOH8EISTE LOIPON TOYS GERMANOYS NA TA KONOMANE OSO BOREITE. OLA SAS TA LEFTA NA TA AXIOPOIEITE PLHRONONTAS SPATOSHMA KAI ALLES EYKOLIES OSTE NA KATALHGOYN STIS GERMANIKES TSEPES. ZHTW TO GERMANIKO AERODROMIO STA SPATA EN ANAGKH ALAXTE ONOMA KAI EPONYMO. YPARXOYN POLLA OREA GERMANIKA ONOMATA. OLA SAS TA LEFTA NA TA DINETE STOYS GERMANOYS KAI STOYS FILOYS TOYS. AYTOI EISTE ALLOSTE ! TA ZITIANAKIA THS EYROPHS. DEN 8ELATE ELLHNIKO E OPOY HSASTAN ESEIS OI EISPATONTES TA KERDH ETSI ; 8ELATE GERMANOYS KAI SPATA E ; ME TIS YGEIES SAS
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